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I was thinking that the full cap system was the way to go for me, but I am getting concerned about the posts I have read about the problems people encounter with the nape of the neck not adhering well. When it doesn't adhere well, does this just mean that it needs a touch up every week instead of lasting 2-3 weeks? Just curious what those of you who are experiencing this with a full cap do when it happens? Thanks :)
Sleeplesshouse
Hi Sleepless. I think it doesn't stick that well because of all the bending and twisting in the the neck. Mine lasts me a good 4 days, with Ultra Hold glue, then it starts lifting slightly. When that happens I clean the area and either add more glue or tape, depending on what kind of time I have. The rest of my head could easily last 2 more weeks, but I choose to remove every week anyway. I have hair that is thinning all over so I think all I could use is a full cap. I know there are some people on here who have a partial cap and they have issues with certain parts of the head not sticking as well, not just full cap wearers.
I usually wet my hair and condition it in the shower (not shampoo). But I think the warm water and conditioner help to loosen the back as well. I am experimenting with this attatchment. Starting today I am going to put my hair in a shower cap for every shower and then just spray my hair with water and leave-in conditioner when I get out and see if that helps. I used to do that just for the first couple days, but now I'm going to try it all week and see if it holds longer. It would be nice to go two weeks without having to mess with the back.
Anyway, everyone is different. You may have better luck with the adhesive sticking to your nape.
I hope this helps, and I will let you know how my little experiment works (by next Saturday).
Dana ;)
Thanks, Dana! That info really helps! I also have thinning all over, although it shows more throughout the crown area...so, I do think the full cap is my best option for the look I am trying to achieve. Which, I might add, is not neceassarily the hair type/style that I've always had...but, definitely one I've always wanted. I have straight, but frizzy, broken, thin, damaged hair. I would love straight straight hair (just to the shoulder) with probably side part bangs. It's dramatically different from what I have now, so it is sure to raise a few eyes...but, it could easily pass as someone having straightened their hair. If I were to go to HD in person, they'd probably recommend a partial, since I do have hair...but, I just don't like it. It's a little thicker on top than the photo of Karyn on the before and after HD home page. But, on top of being thin...it's just so damaged (split ends, dry & brittle). I love your curly hair. I wonder how you would like a straight look on you, as far as ease of styling would go.....I imagine it might be easier to let curly hair just dry naturally (& therefore not cause damage from blow drying/processing)...but, I need straight hair :)
Thanks for the compliments Sleepless. As a matter of fact I am going straighter with my next unit, with bangs as well! I won't get that one until August though. My hair is naturally curly and it would look like what I have now if it wasn't thinning. Now my natural hair is just straggly and you could see through it if it was long. I always had to wear it short so it would look thicker. So I went from super short to super long! I basically told my family and friends what I was doing ahead of time and they understood. As far as aquaintences or people I would see now and then, they probably knew something was different about me, but didn't say anything.
I don't know if I would be comfortable with a partial either. It's kind of nice to just deal with the whole head. Just put it on and go. (once you get the hang of it that is) Tell HD what you truly want, they should listen.
So are you planning to go to HD or getting a kit soon?
I have the kit. I've completed as much as I can. I've just hesitated in sending it in just yet b/c I can't decide which base to get...if I get bangs..I can get a more durable unit...but, sounds like the poly edge might lift too much so ??? I can wear with no bangs...but, then I really do need lace..and, I'm scared of hurting the lace.....but, I know it would look the best. My greatest hesitation with lace, though, is density. I want to have enough density..not sure if a lace base can hold what I'm wanting....medium density ~100% sounds good...but, medium-light sounds too light when you have thin hair.
Oh boy, yes lots of questions! I believe you can have bangs with lace. Just not with the high definition hairline. Lace looks most natural. You can get medium density with lace too I believe. I'm sure you've heard people say less is more when it comes to density. If it's too thick it doesn't look natural. And keep your age in mind. For instance I'm 48 and I don't want to have hair as thick as a 20 year old ya know?
You should call them. Even if they tell you to send in the kit as is, they will still call you as soon as they receive it to discuss everything in detail. They won't order anything until you both are on the same page with what you are looking for. Keep me posted!
Hi Sleepless and Dana!
Thought I'd chime in here since I kind of started the whole "nape not sticking" issue.
Even though it tends to lift, it is really not so bad that I would ever go back to a partial unit. Especially if you have thinning all over, it is so much easier to start fresh with "new" hair and a full cap. I'm still experimenting, as is Dana, and we will hit on just the right combo of tape/glue/staples/thumbtacks to hold it down (just kidding about the staples and thumbtacks
As to density, I'm with Dana. Less is more.....especially in curly hair. Check out my pictures....I have 80/85% in front, and believe me, there is still lots of hair there. I think that's the biggest mistake we make.......ordering too heavy a density the first time. You go from thin/sparse/skinny head to BAM a massive 'do......and that's what's noticable. If you make a dramatic change in your hairstyle, say going from curly to straight hair in your case, that's what people will notice. I went from almost total silver/gray in front (my natural hair) to brunette (my new hair system hair) and that's what people noticed. Plus I got a cute new style and cut, so that's what everyone thought I did. People really don't notice as much as we think they do. We're the ones fixated on our hair, not anyone else.
Send in that kit and talk to your tech. Having hair is SO MUCH BETTER than not having hair. It's amazing what it does for your self esteem. You'll never go back!
Lady in Red
Hair is a beautiful thing!
Can Dana or Lady in Red post a clear closeup picture of your hair pushed behind your ears or pulled back? I'm really curious to see how realistic the hairline looks besides in the front, especially over the ears and at the nape of the neck. You all say that the full cap is better than partial but I'm wondering how realistic it looks if you wear your hair other ways or if the wind is blowing. Or are you sort of stuck having a hairdo that is always the same with no options? I'm very curious because one day I will need a full cap (I'm hoping not soon!) but also I always think that it would be easier because then I could just wear straight hair and not have to try to match my own curl. That is the hardest part. Other than trying to match my own curl, I love the realism of the partial.
By the way Sleepless, you have at least TWICE as much hair as I do, you could totally go with a partial unit if you want.
Susan
Also Sleepless, based on your pictures I think 100% density would be a good start for you. I've had 100 and 110. I understand Lady in Red's point about the density but she has shorter, fluffier hair so the base is less noticeable. I had 100% with high def transitional density in the front of a couple of my units and I really looked like I was losing my hair. Not the effect I was going for! My hair is long and hangs flat to my head so the base is more noticeable and more density is necessary. I actually needed less density with the straight hair than I did with the curly hair, which is kind of the opposite of what you would expect.
The lace can hold your density. Mine is 110 and Babe's is 120. If you go with the HD03 or the HD26 you won't hurt the lace unless you are doing something really crazy with it. The only one that is really delicate is the HD24 and with 100% density I wouldn't recommend it. If you are planning to get units at least every 3 months, you might as well go with the lace. The hair doesn't look great after 3-4 months anyway, so there's no real reason to get a base that lasts longer than the hair. I've used all of these bases and the only one that is really delicate is the HD24.
I used to use conventional bases and have found that they shed significantly more and faster than the lace base units do. I really don't know why. Perhaps it's the way it's constructed.
You can wear lace with or without bangs, but unless you plan to redo the front edge at least once a week, bangs will be easier. If you are getting bangs, don't get the high def hairline. It makes for some really wimpy, skimpy bangs. Believe me. Dana, how often are you touching up your front hairline? Or how long does it go before it is noticeable. I read somewhere you are thinking of switching to bangs too. Does that have anything to do with the look of the front hairline?
Hi Sue. I just posted some pics of the ear, side of neck and back of neck. I had no one to take the picture in the back, so I did the best I could.
Anyway, I have to be honest, the unit I'm wearing is my back up and not HD's. It is all lace, similar to HD24. The one I wear from HD is HD03 and I don't think I would be able to pull my hair up too high off my neck because it doesn't look as natural as the lace. Also, I have an issue with my unit from HD. The hairline is too high up on the back of my neck. I am asking for it to be longer or farther down on my next unit.
I'm also asking for all lace on my next unit because I do like pulling the hair up off my neck once in a while. I wore my hair up all last weekend because it was warm out. Even being outdoors, my husband told me honestly that it looked natural. As long as you can keep the shine down. I felt very confident. So no, you are not stuck wearing your hair one way all the time. But of course, natural is always best. I would try to use your own hair the longer I could.
As far as my front hairline, I never really have to touch it up. It always sticks great...go figure? I just want to get bangs because I want to try something different and a little more in style, not to hide anything. I will post new pics of that when I get it in August.
Dana
Does that mean you'll be ordering HD24 next? When you do put your hair up, how do you do it? Ponytail with traditional ponytail holder? Or, clip?
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