Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

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  • Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Hello, folks... I am on my 3rd, and affordably last, French Lace hairpiece.

    Let me explain.

    I'm new to all of this.

    The first hairpiece, 2 things happened. 

     1.) My wife cut the lace back way too far... I mean, the scissors got away from her, and we actually ended up behind the baby hairs!

     2.) We used tape... big mistake. Wouldn't lay down, stuck up, which I guess was added to by the fact that the hairline was botched back too far? 

    The SECOND hairpiece? A little better.

    But, this time, -I- cut the lace back too far. Not as far as my wife, but still, I have NO excess lace below the hairline.

     Now, for this unit, we tried white glue. I like the effect MUCH better... the lift off effect is minimal, if we're lucky enough to place it correctly the first time.

    However, because the front edge has no excess lace, I'm pretty much having to mash the hair down, instead of any bare lace... this is just a MESS. The hair goes flat, gets sticky... and, 8 times out of 10, I get it on wrong, lace is sticking up, hair is gummy, and I end up wearing a hat, and wanting to cry my eyes out.

    Okay...

    I have, in my possession... an untouched, lace intact THIRD hairpiece. It's my last chance, for a while.

    •  Am I surmising correctly that I do need to leave some excess lace? I have read to leave as much as 1/2 inch excess, as that gives more room to work with the glue, and this will prevent lift-off of the front edge?
    • Any tips for how to stay in control of where I'm cutting the lace? Do I just use basic scissors?
    • That 'white glue'... when it says allow it to dry completely... I know each situatuon will be different. But, let me ask this... if I applied it, went and did some other stuff as it dries, and came back 15 minutes later.... is that too long? Like, is there a magical amount of time there that if I wait too long, it won't stick? Or, does letting it dry for longer time like that make it less messy?
    • In opinions of other members... does leaving more excess lace in the front help prevent that 'lift off' effect?

     Thanks so much, I just am having a hard time. I'm putting some things on hold in my life until I am sure I've got this down at least to a reasonable manner in which I can get a hairpiece on correctly.

    Has anyone else had mishaps like this, while learning?

     Thanks in advance for any help.

     Walt Sad

     

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Two initial questions, what tape did you try? and are you using a scalp protector?
  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    It was the "no shine" tape. 

    And, since I don't know what 'scalp proector' is, I must not be using it LoL

    Do I need to be? What is it? 

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Hello WB

    The front lace is the key to the perfect look. It sounds like you order your systems like i do, with the lace left uncut.

    The reason why i order this way is because the lace often comes cut to close, and as you said it can ruin that sharp undetectable hairline.

     

    Here is the tip for cutting the lace.

    Find a dark flat background, like a black sofa, or a dark piece of paper or card. The lace is difficult to see and mistakes can happen if you can not see where you are cutting.

    Lay the lace with the hair brushed back. Its a good idea to spray the hair so its stays back with water or a leave in conditioner spray.

    Slowly trim the hair line lace, however leave about 3/4 of an inch in front of the hair. 

    You need some lace!

    Remember you can trim more but you can not add.

    There should be enough lace for you to be able to hold onto to brush the hair back.

    Then when you attach using a white glue like safe grip, the lace will, with two coats, disappear into the glue, and give you a strong stunning airline. 

    That tiny extra bit of lace acts like a 'hinge'  and keeps it solid for about a week.

    You wil get there.

     

    Tim 

    "On my head not in my head"

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    hello wb1975,

                      have you tried watching bills vdeo on applying white glue (go to pictures and then on to videos).

                     if you go on to page three there is a thread entitled 'front edge'.

                     wish i could help some more, all the best

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Hi WB.  It helps to use small scissors to cut the lace.  Like manicuring scissors.  I'm not sure if they told you when you received your pieces.  I haven't received my hair yet.  I'm still waiting for mine, but I wear lace wigs now and I cut my lace. I didn't even know I had a choice to have the lace cut or not.  Do they usually come un-cut or cut?

    Dana ;)

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    I think they come cut if you don't request extra lace. No one has ever mentioned extra lace to me. The lace is precut up to where the hair starts. There is no extra lace. For me this works out because I use about a quarter inch of my own hairline still but after reading a lot of these posts about extra lace I will have to order extra lace should I ever decide to remove my front hairline.

    Susan

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Hello,

     

    Yes i did request it, however if you are happy with the lace there is no need to request this. My density is light and i brush my hair up exposing the hairline, so its important for me to have the right length of lace, to that end i cut it myself, its really easy, but another job to do if you dont need it. :-)

    Tim 

    "On my head not in my head"

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Tim, I love the idea with having the extra lace in front, I can see where this would give a killer hairline. My only concern would be that the adhesive under the extra lace staying tacky and this creates a larger area for dust and grime to accumulate. How do you keep that area clean, or do you have a way of sealing the adhesive so it's no longer tacky? Also, can you just order your unit to have the extra lace cut to the length you want without having to do it yourself?Huh?
  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    The extra lace in front is an excellent idea I got from Tim and a picture I saw of John Travolta somewhere on this website. I use Perfector to attach the front and the extra lace just gives you that extra natural, invisible appearance. When the lace frays, you just cut it back a little and the lace is like new. What I also do (thanks to Bill snr.) is to dab a little scalp protector onto the front attachment after a few hours. It makes for easier clean up in between attachments and also reduces the sticky feeling.
  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Hello Clint.

    Peet is right you can seal the glue in with the scalp protector and a daily wipe of adjust a bond is good to keep it sharp and clean.

     

    Hope that helps

    Tim 

    "On my head not in my head"

  • Re: Front edge "lifting up"... about to lose my mind!

    Thank you, Tim, and everyone else. I apologize for just now responding to a thread that I started months ago.

    I lost my log-in info and then also was going thru a depressive phase.

    I actually DID watch Bill's white glue video! My lift issues are solved finally, just that I do still get nervous each time I attach until I see that it's okay.

    Anyway, I have just now written my log-in info down, and look forward to hanging around here to give AND receive helpful input. Some of my unit-attachment issues have also helped me learn some useful tips.

     Thanks, everyone.

     Walter

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